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Logseq vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Logseq and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Logseq vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Logseq?
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
Logseq vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Logseq
3.8COLLAB
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
◆ Current state
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
◆ Where it's heading
The DB rewrite moves Logseq off Markdown-file storage toward a database model, the prerequisite for the faster queries, reliable sync, and multi-device support the file-based app has struggled to deliver. Expect the 0.10.x line to slide into maintenance while 2.0 stabilizes. The formal split into two versions signals Logseq intends to keep supporting local Markdown graphs rather than force-migrate everyone.
◆ Prediction
Near-term releases will be rapid 2.0.x betas hardening the DB engine and the Markdown-to-DB migration path; a stable 2.0 hinges on how cleanly existing graphs import.
SiYuan
5.0COLLAB
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
◆ Current state
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
◆ Where it's heading
SiYuan works in fast public cycles, with the next version's alphas starting as soon as the last one stabilises. 3.8.11 is about polish and editing depth: mind maps, databases and the new Markdown editor all get more control.
◆ Prediction
Expect more 3.8.11 alphas, then betas and release candidates with the same list, following the 3.8.10 pattern.
Alternatives to Logseq and SiYuan
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either Logseq or SiYuan.
Nextcloud
Nextcloud's November patches lean on preview speed and sharing fixes across three branches.
Mattermost
Mattermost v12.1 puts bots and burn-after-reading messages under the same access rules.
Asana
Asana lets Division admins run their own custom roles, on top Enterprise plans only.
Double
Double turns a recorded Chrome session into an agent that repeats the task.
Hive
Hive turns reporting into a planning tool: shared inputs, grouped values, per-person drill-downs.
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Recent activity from Logseq and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 18h agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha 4 adds search and replace to Markdown editor
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha: freeform mind maps, plugin snapshots
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC5: related database views, better LAN sync
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC3: AI memory, database sub-items near stable
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 2
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 1
- 4mo agoLogseqDesktop APP 2.0.1 (Beta Testing) ⚡
- 5mo agoLogseqbackup/icon-picker-pre-hsx-merge
- 11mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.15 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.14 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.13 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.12 (Beta Testing)
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Logseq and SiYuan?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Logseq better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Logseq?
Top Logseq alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Logseq alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/logseq for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.