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Logseq vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Logseq and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Shared themes:knowledge-managementlocal-first
Logseq vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Logseq?
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan v3.8.4 beta cycle adds agent-controlled database fields, MiniMax image gen, and skill file management
SiYuan is deep in the v3.8.4 pre-release cycle, now at beta.4, shipping a dense stream of enhancements across each daily build. The defining theme of this release cycle is agent-control expansion: the AI can now configure database fields, manage skill files, stream Markdown previews, and use custom AI provider headers — moving SiYuan from a tool where AI assists with writing to one where AI can reshape the workspace structure itself. Mobile UX and PDF annotation improvements are running in parallel.
Logseq vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Logseq
3.8COLLAB
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
◆ Current state
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
◆ Where it's heading
The DB rewrite moves Logseq off Markdown-file storage toward a database model, the prerequisite for the faster queries, reliable sync, and multi-device support the file-based app has struggled to deliver. Expect the 0.10.x line to slide into maintenance while 2.0 stabilizes. The formal split into two versions signals Logseq intends to keep supporting local Markdown graphs rather than force-migrate everyone.
◆ Prediction
Near-term releases will be rapid 2.0.x betas hardening the DB engine and the Markdown-to-DB migration path; a stable 2.0 hinges on how cleanly existing graphs import.
SiYuan
6.3COLLAB
SiYuan v3.8.4 beta cycle adds agent-controlled database fields, MiniMax image gen, and skill file management
◆ Current state
SiYuan is deep in the v3.8.4 pre-release cycle, now at beta.4, shipping a dense stream of enhancements across each daily build. The defining theme of this release cycle is agent-control expansion: the AI can now configure database fields, manage skill files, stream Markdown previews, and use custom AI provider headers — moving SiYuan from a tool where AI assists with writing to one where AI can reshape the workspace structure itself. Mobile UX and PDF annotation improvements are running in parallel.
◆ Where it's heading
SiYuan is building toward an agent-orchestrated personal knowledge base, where the AI layer can modify not just content but the organizational schema. The skill file management system suggests an emerging plugin-like architecture for agent behaviors. As multimodal generation (MiniMax image support) gets wired in, SiYuan's trajectory is toward a locally-run AI workspace that rivals cloud-based tools without the data-residency trade-off.
◆ Prediction
v3.8.4 stable will ship soon given the move to beta.4. The agentic features (database field configuration, skill management) will attract integrations from local-first AI workflow builders. Expect MiniMax and other provider integrations to expand in the next cycle.
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Recent activity from Logseq and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 4h agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-beta.4: agent workspace control and MiniMax image generation ⚡
- 21h agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-beta.3: streaming agent preview and MCP SQL fix
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-beta.2: Docker fonts, custom block search
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-beta.1: pinnable documents, rich text tables, remote GUI
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-alpha.9: Serbian language, fullscreen agent dock
- 3d agoSiYuanSiYuan v3.8.4-alpha.8: document pinning, sync improvements
- 2mo agoLogseqDesktop APP 2.0.1 (Beta Testing) ⚡
- 3mo agoLogseqbackup/icon-picker-pre-hsx-merge
- 9mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.15 (Beta Testing)
- 11mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.14 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.13 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.12 (Beta Testing)
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Logseq and SiYuan?
Both compete on the same themes — knowledge-management, local-first — within Collab. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 3.8), with 1 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Logseq better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 3.8), with 1 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Logseq?
Top Logseq alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Logseq alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/logseq for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.