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Joplin vs SiYuan

A side-by-side editorial comparison of Joplin and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.

Shared themes:note-taking

Joplin vs SiYuan: at a glance

FeatureJoplinSiYuan
SectorCollabCollab
Velocity score5.05.0
Sparks · 30d00
Top themesnote-taking, security, privacy, self-hostednote-taking, knowledge base, mind maps, databases
Last editorial update8d ago13h ago
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What is Joplin?

Joplin fixes 50+ server security issues found in a Claude-assisted review of Joplin Cloud.

Joplin added AI in 3.7 (chat, semantic search, MCP), all opt-in, and has since named Mistral's EU endpoint as the provider behind Joplin Cloud AI. Its November 2 post reports a full review of Joplin Server, which also runs Joplin Cloud, done with Claude through Anthropic's Cyber Verification Program: no critical findings, but more than 50 high, medium and lower issues fixed. Self-hosters need 3.7.4 or later, which changes LDAP and SAML sign-in behavior.

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What is SiYuan?

SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.

SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.

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Joplin vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side

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Joplin
COLLAB
5.0

Joplin fixes 50+ server security issues found in a Claude-assisted review of Joplin Cloud.

◆ Current state

Joplin added AI in 3.7 (chat, semantic search, MCP), all opt-in, and has since named Mistral's EU endpoint as the provider behind Joplin Cloud AI. Its November 2 post reports a full review of Joplin Server, which also runs Joplin Cloud, done with Claude through Anthropic's Cyber Verification Program: no critical findings, but more than 50 high, medium and lower issues fixed. Self-hosters need 3.7.4 or later, which changes LDAP and SAML sign-in behavior.

◆ Where it's heading

Joplin's recent posts are about trust: privacy terms for AI, a named data processor, and now an audited server. The product is positioning its cloud as safe to put notes in while feature releases stay on a roughly four-month cycle.

◆ Prediction

The next feature release, around 3.8, would fit the four-month cadence in early 2027; the security post suggests more server-side hardening will land in point releases before then.

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SiYuan
COLLAB
5.0

SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.

◆ Current state

SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.

◆ Where it's heading

SiYuan works in fast public cycles, with the next version's alphas starting as soon as the last one stabilises. 3.8.11 is about polish and editing depth: mind maps, databases and the new Markdown editor all get more control.

◆ Prediction

Expect more 3.8.11 alphas, then betas and release candidates with the same list, following the 3.8.10 pattern.

Alternatives to Joplin and SiYuan

Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either Joplin or SiYuan.

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Recent activity from Joplin and SiYuan

Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.

  1. 19h agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha 4 adds search and replace to Markdown editor
  2. 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha: freeform mind maps, plugin snapshots
  3. 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC5: related database views, better LAN sync
  4. 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC3: AI memory, database sub-items near stable
  5. 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 2
  6. 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 1
  7. 12d agoJoplinA full security review of Joplin Server and Joplin Cloud
  8. 24d agoJoplinHow we protect your privacy with Joplin Cloud AI
  9. 2mo agoJoplinYour notes and AI: privacy first
  10. 2mo agoJoplinWhat's new in Joplin 3.7 ⚡
  11. 6mo agoJoplinWhat's new in Joplin 3.6
  12. 8mo agoJoplinIntroducing our Warrant Canary

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between Joplin and SiYuan?

Both compete on the same themes — note-taking — within Collab. Joplin and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.

Is Joplin better than SiYuan?

Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. Joplin and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.

What are the best alternatives to Joplin?

Top Joplin alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Joplin alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/joplin for the full list with editorial commentary on each.

What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?

Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.