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Elgg vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Elgg and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Elgg vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Elgg?
Elgg 6.3.10 raises the PHP floor to 8.2 as 7.1.3 patches access checks.
Elgg is a mature open-source PHP framework for self-hosted community platforms. The 7.0 major shipped in May 2026 and 7.1.0 in September added invitation-only groups. On November 5 Elgg shipped 7.1.3, fixing an access-collection permission check and a trash language key, and 6.3.10, which raises the minimum PHP version to 8.2.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
Elgg vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Elgg
5.0COLLAB
Elgg 6.3.10 raises the PHP floor to 8.2 as 7.1.3 patches access checks.
◆ Current state
Elgg is a mature open-source PHP framework for self-hosted community platforms. The 7.0 major shipped in May 2026 and 7.1.0 in September added invitation-only groups. On November 5 Elgg shipped 7.1.3, fixing an access-collection permission check and a trash language key, and 6.3.10, which raises the minimum PHP version to 8.2.
◆ Where it's heading
Both branches remain in maintenance, but the PHP 8.2 requirement on the 6.x line is a nudge for older installs to modernise or move to 7.x.
◆ Prediction
Paired 7.1.x and 6.3.x patches should continue every two to three weeks; the entries give no sign of a 7.2 feature release yet.
SiYuan
5.0COLLAB
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
◆ Current state
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
◆ Where it's heading
SiYuan works in fast public cycles, with the next version's alphas starting as soon as the last one stabilises. 3.8.11 is about polish and editing depth: mind maps, databases and the new Markdown editor all get more control.
◆ Prediction
Expect more 3.8.11 alphas, then betas and release candidates with the same list, following the 3.8.10 pattern.
Alternatives to Elgg and SiYuan
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either Elgg or SiYuan.
Nextcloud
Nextcloud's November patches lean on preview speed and sharing fixes across three branches.
Mattermost
Mattermost v12.1 puts bots and burn-after-reading messages under the same access rules.
Asana
Asana lets Division admins run their own custom roles, on top Enterprise plans only.
Double
Double turns a recorded Chrome session into an agent that repeats the task.
Hive
Hive turns reporting into a planning tool: shared inputs, grouped values, per-person drill-downs.
Recent activity from Elgg and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 18h agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha 4 adds search and replace to Markdown editor
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha: freeform mind maps, plugin snapshots
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC5: related database views, better LAN sync
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC3: AI memory, database sub-items near stable
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 2
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 1
- 8d agoElggElgg 7.1.3
- 9d agoElggElgg 6.3.10
- 24d agoElggElgg 7.1.2: small patch, paired with 6.3.9, no notes
- 24d agoElggElgg 6.3.9: paired backport patch for the 6.x line, no notes
- 1mo agoElggElgg 7.1.1 fixes profile access display, trash recovery and theming
- 2mo agoElggElgg 7.1.0: invitation-only groups, MariaDB now recommended
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Elgg and SiYuan?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. Elgg and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Elgg better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. Elgg and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Elgg?
Top Elgg alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Elgg alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/elgg for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.